Sure and thank you for such a informative reply i do appreciate it. I'm just going to figure out how to upload the note as well as the painting. She was born Gertrude Briickman her husband was of Spanish decent named Luis Pamies. I was able to locate their headstone she was born in 1877 died in 1844 in redwood city of a heart attack she is the one who painted the painting as there is her sig and the note that validates her as the painter. Actually i think the painting is kinda cool with its original old frame it is a ship sailing the sea maybe possibly a Spanish ship however she was German i did locate her death cert but as of yet have not been able to locate her obit to see if there are any living relatives I'm thinking by the wording of the note she and Luis were childless. Ive contacted the Francisco libraries genealogy and history dept no help i contacted the chamber of commerce no help i even wrote to the cemetery where they are buried to see who well for lack of a batter term "Placed them there and they have not responded as of yet. Anyway I'm going to trey to upload the photos and if that does not work is there an email address that i could send them to you at id in all honesty would rather do that as i have no patience and am pretty green on the computer and in the past i have not correctly upload some photos uploading the WRONG ones. Let me put it this way it was one of the most embarrassing moments of my life on line and it got me kicked out of a website i was a new member in i really dint want that to happen again Ill try OK. Again thank you so mu cg one little question i dint understand what it means when there is that i am spamming this board every few words of your reply forgive my ignorance.